Jeff Gordon - Page 6

Home Depot Man · 02-15-2006, 04:41 PM

It is common knowledge that Ray was able to work outside the box. It is common knowledge that he was doing something illegal with the tires. What nascar did was change the rules on that after 1999 season when they figured out what he was doing with the rim etc. Well I will give him that one, but when you have a car that can take two tires at the end of every race vs everyone elses four you think the driver might win? He did a nascar interview and said that it was just too easy at HMS and he needed to move on. Yeah he had chevy, the tire companies and nascar on his side, but you will never see that again.

24n48fan · 02-15-2006, 05:39 PM

Just because they were able to pull of wins with 2 tire stratrgy, it doesn't mean he was cheating. Too easy? Then why did they struggle in the 1999 season when Ray left?

Scooters · 02-15-2006, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by 24n48fan

He came close to doing it in 2001 when he won 6 races, "Cheat car days"? I hardly doubt there was any cheating while Evernham was around.. The last time Jeff got busted was when he won at Richmond in 2000. For an illegal manifold intake. And the was in the POST-EVERNHAM Era.

Are you forgetting that Evernham got hit with the largest penalty ever assessed ... on the #24 car?

24n48fan · 02-15-2006, 05:49 PM

I forgot what the penalty was..........

Scooters · 02-15-2006, 05:52 PM

$60,000. They weren't taking points back then (1995).

24n48fan · 02-15-2006, 05:54 PM

Ok. What was the penalty?

Scooters · 02-15-2006, 05:55 PM

Ok. I'll type slower ... $ 6 0, 0 0 0

24n48fan · 02-15-2006, 05:57 PM

No, I meant, what did they do wrong? Sorry, I misinterpreted my question.

Schwartz Fan · 02-15-2006, 06:10 PM

http://blog.news-record.com/staff/sp...n_cheatin.html

"You're much better off looking for advantages within the rules now," says car owner Ray Evernham, who was fined $60,000 in 1995 for illegal suspension parts when he was Jeff Gordon's crew chief. "Because the advantages that you're going to get that are really outside the rules that we have now are blatantly cheating."

24n48fan · 02-15-2006, 06:15 PM

Illegal suspension parts. Thanks. That's the answer I was looking for. I wasn't follwing NASCAR in 1995, so I didn't know.

02-15-2006, 05:39 PM	#52 (permalink)
24n48fan VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,775	Just because they were able to pull of wins with 2 tire stratrgy, it doesn't mean he was cheating. Too easy? Then why did they struggle in the 1999 season when Ray left? __________________

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24n48fan VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,775	I forgot what the penalty was.......... __________________

02-15-2006, 05:52 PM	#55 (permalink)
Scooters VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,451	$60,000. They weren't taking points back then (1995). __________________ Have you ever felt like doing this to someone?

02-15-2006, 05:54 PM	#56 (permalink)
24n48fan VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,775	Ok. What was the penalty? __________________

02-15-2006, 05:55 PM	#57 (permalink)
Scooters VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,451	Ok. I'll type slower ... $ 6 0, 0 0 0 __________________ Have you ever felt like doing this to someone?

02-15-2006, 04:41 PM	#51 (permalink)
Home Depot Man Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 330	It is common knowledge that Ray was able to work outside the box. It is common knowledge that he was doing something illegal with the tires. What nascar did was change the rules on that after 1999 season when they figured out what he was doing with the rim etc. Well I will give him that one, but when you have a car that can take two tires at the end of every race vs everyone elses four you think the driver might win? He did a nascar interview and said that it was just too easy at HMS and he needed to move on. Yeah he had chevy, the tire companies and nascar on his side, but you will never see that again.

02-15-2006, 05:57 PM	#58 (permalink)
24n48fan VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,775	No, I meant, what did they do wrong? Sorry, I misinterpreted my question. __________________

02-15-2006, 06:10 PM	#59 (permalink)
Schwartz Fan Co-Administrator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The flatlands...Where dirt is for farming, clay is for racin' and asphalt is for gettin there!!! Posts: 7,450	http://blog.news-record.com/staff/sp...n_cheatin.html "You're much better off looking for advantages within the rules now," says car owner Ray Evernham, who was fined $60,000 in 1995 for illegal suspension parts when he was Jeff Gordon's crew chief. "Because the advantages that you're going to get that are really outside the rules that we have now are blatantly cheating." __________________

02-15-2006, 06:15 PM	#60 (permalink)
24n48fan VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,775	Illegal suspension parts. Thanks. That's the answer I was looking for. I wasn't follwing NASCAR in 1995, so I didn't know. __________________

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